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  • My husband have atrophic gastritis

    Posted by iryna_klevetenko on July 3, 2025 at 12:15 pm

    Hi everyone, so my husband had his colonoscopy and gastroscopy and the results are that he has atrophic gastritis and one of the polyps they found was tubulovillous adenoma, now I understand why he had constipation and high ferritin. Can you please recommend what should we do with the inflammation. In the report It states they found no H Pylori.I attached his tests. Thank you so much!

    iryna_klevetenko replied 2 days, 11 hours ago 4 Members · 16 Replies
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  • naslam1603

    Member
    July 4, 2025 at 2:40 am

    Hi,

    Please have him checked for gastric parietal cell antibody and intrinsic fsctor. This is a blood test. Please also check for his methylmalonic malonic acid blood test. He will need to have regular endoscopy. Every couple of years. I have focal atrophic gastritis and take B12 injections and folate. He needs to ensure that he’s on a low acid food diet, no spicy, oily, processed foods and refined sugar foods.

  • iryna_klevetenko

    Member
    July 4, 2025 at 7:03 am

    I forgot to mentioned that he drinks 2 cups of coffee on an empty stomach he add one tbs of Mct oil in it, doesn’t like breakfast so usually he will have his first meal at 12:30 or 1pm. I make green juices ( Celery, parsley , spinach and lemon sometimes)for him or smoothies ( mix greens and fruits) almost every day, also adding to a salads apple vinegar sometimes, hemp seeds, goji seeds…. Also he has fatty liver we saw it when we did ultrasound. And I give him some supplements : Day Time: Joint health supplements (Supreme brand it has 9 ingridients) VD+VK, sometimes he take digestive bitters before food and digestive enzymes after food not regular,Omega 3, Herbal Liver Cleanse.

    Evening time: Magnesium Citrate, Probiotics, NAC(not regular), Omega3, Berberine.

    Also time to time give him this supplements (I change them every month I don’t give them all at the same time) Reishi mushroom or Vitamin C or Beta Gluons or Resveratrol or for sleep (Melatonin or Best rest formula pure encapsulated or 5 HTP). I just add all the information so that you can correct us in what are we taking. Thank you

    • Bernadette_Abraham

      Administrator
      July 4, 2025 at 11:49 am

      Hi @iryna_klevetenko – thanks for sharing the labs and additional info. As you know, the more context we have the better we can guide and support you, so I have some questions which you can reply to one by one.

      1. Besides constipation, is he experiencing any bloating, gas, reflux, fatigue?

      2. You mentioned several supplements to help him sleep. Is sleep an issue for him?

      3. How often does he have bowel movements? And what type are they (using the Bristol Stool score)?

      4. You mentioned that he fasts. What are his typical meals after 12:30 PM?

      5. Does he consume gluten, dairy, or processed foods? How much organic food is consumed vs. conventional food?

      6. Any alcohol intake? If so, how much and how often?

      7. Does he take any medication (even over-the-counter like antacids)?

      8. What’s his stress level like, and does he have any movement or exercise built into his day?

      Now from a “root cause” perspective, here’s what seems to be at play:

      -The stomach inflammation (atrophic gastritis) means the stomach lining has thinned and may no longer be producing enough acid. This will impact digestion and absorption of key nutrients like B12, iron, and zinc. Have any of these been measured? If not, they should along with folate/B9. Low stomach acid can lead to constipation, poor nutrient absorption, and microbial overgrowths/imbalances further down in the intestines (as seen in the skewing of his neutrophils and lymphocyte in his CBC), which can promote even more inflammation in the intestines and colon (which can promote polyps – these are usually due to toxins).

      -> So supporting stomach acid, digestion & motility is a priority! Not pooping daily creates a lot of toxins in the body! If he can tolerate digestive bitters and enzymes more consistently, this can provide some digestive support in the meantime. If they bother him, he needs more gut healing support first. Also, coffee on an empty stomach with MCT oil is probably not a good idea as it can irritate the stomach further. Consider eliminating coffee altogether and switching to green tea, or as a minimum, having coffee after the first meal.

      -The fatty liver diagnosis, high ferritin, high uric acid, and borderline cholesterol all point toward the liver struggling to keep up. This is where we need to start asking why? Diet? Fasting habits? Toxin overload? Alcohol? Sleep apnea? – please share your thoughts with us about what you think could be contributing to his liver struggling. Here’s a Fatty Liver handout with root causes.

      I’ll wait to hear from you on all of my questions above.

      • iryna_klevetenko

        Member
        July 4, 2025 at 12:49 pm

        Hi @Bernadette_Abraham please see my answers:1. Besides constipation, is he experiencing any bloating, gas, reflux, fatigue? Sometimes gas, depending on what he eats. No reflux, no fatigue

        2. You mentioned several supplements to help him sleep. Is sleep an issue for him? Sleep is not an issue really but he can wake up at 5 am quite often.

        3. How often does he have bowel movements? And what type are they (using the Bristol Stool score)? 1-3 times daily. Previously type 1, following the colonoscopy it has been type 4.

        4. You mentioned that he fasts. What are his typical meals after 12:30 PM? The latest can be at 20:30 and few times per week or even just one time per week. Usually we finish dinner by 19:30. Mostly salads, oven baked fish, meats and vegetables. Very little sugar or carbs.

        5. Does he consume gluten, dairy, or processed foods? How much organic food is consumed vs. conventional food? Gluten (bread and pasta) and dairy (cheese, yoghurt) yes, but in moderation. Hardly any processed foods. Organic vs conventional probably 40% organic.

        6. Any alcohol intake? If so, how much and how often? 3 times per week, 2 cocktails or glasses of wine each time.

        7. Does he take any medication (even over-the-counter like antacids)? No

        8. What’s his stress level like, and does he have any movement or exercise built into his day? He has stress( he was stressed because of my sickness and my few surgeries ) , irregular exercise 2-4 days a week, 10-20 minutes per day, mostly strength training.

        Thank you 🙏

        • Bernadette_Abraham

          Administrator
          July 4, 2025 at 1:40 pm

          @iryna_klevetenko glad to hear that he’s no longer constipated!

          How open is he to eliminating alcohol from his lifestyle? If it’s too drastic, would he be open to reducing it by at least half?

          I know many people drink socially or because they enjoy the taste, or they use it to calm down after a stressful day. Whatever the reason however, it’s not helping his case. In fact, I’d say it’s likely a big contributor.

          Alcohol puts extra strain on the liver, which is already struggling in his case (with fatty liver, high ferritin, and borderline cholesterol). Even moderate drinking can increase liver fat, raise inflammation, and worsen nutrient absorption, all of which can contribute to the very issues he’s dealing with, including polyp formation and gut inflammation. It also impacts the gut microbiome and can increase “leaky gut”. So drastically reducing or even better, removing it completely can make a big difference in giving his body a chance to recover.

          You can suggest that he tries a 2-month alcohol-free challenge and then retests to see his before and after results. That might encourage him to quit. 🙂

          And if it would help, I can work on putting together an “alcohol swaps” handout to help “keep the ritual, but change the habit”. Let me know if that would help.

          • iryna_klevetenko

            Member
            July 5, 2025 at 3:35 am

            @Bernadette_Abraham thank you will try to convince him. Also can you please recommend what kind of diet should he practice , can I still give him smoothies and green juice ? And about the supplements should I remove something because it can trigger the inflammation like ( in joint health support there is turmeric …) and if there are some specific probiotics you can recommend. His constipation just recently improved after the colonoscopy so I am not sure how long will it last.

            Thank you

          • iryna_klevetenko

            Member
            July 5, 2025 at 4:41 am

            So he will do at least one month) without alcohol which is a good news, also can you please recommend liver supplements. I really need help with supplements what should or shouldn’t I give him. Thank you 🙏

            • Bernadette_Abraham

              Administrator
              July 5, 2025 at 2:45 pm

              @iryna_klevetenko – I’m so happy to hear that he’s willing to go alcohol-free for a month! I can’t wait to hear about his experience and what positively shifts for him. It’s a powerful exercise, because people usually notice what a positive difference it makes for them, (especially when they reintroduce it and notice old symptoms coming back), so it becomes an empowered choice vs. a challenge.

              From what you described about his diet, it sounds like he’s eating mostly whole foods prepared at home. This is already a great start. I would encourage him to watch the VPF Principle lesson which provides a framework to ensure you’re having balanced meals filled with proteins, fiber and healthy. This is the foundation to a healthy diet.

              But given his need for additional liver and detoxification support, you can include more targeted food & supplement therapies for both liver health and liver detox.

              -Please watch this lesson here from the Gut Health Masterclass. It shares supplement suggestions for supporting liver/gallbladder health.

              In terms of therapeutic foods to support liver/gallbladder health, my go-to is dandelion root tea, beetroots & artichoke. For detox support, a variety of different cruciferous vegetables daily (1 cup). You can find more detox supportive foods in this handout.

              In terms of liver detoxification support (which is different to liver health support), anything with a combination of B vitamins and amino acids (proteins) will support Phase 1 & 2 detox. One of my favorite products for that is by Integrative Therapeutics Detoxification Factors – but they’ve been out of stock for a while. And you can find more information about how to support overall detoxification & elimination of toxins through all the different pathways in the body in this lesson here from the Mold & Mycotoxin course. These will help reduce overall toxic burden in the body.

              If his constipation returns, it’s very important that this be addressed as a priority because it’s one of the primary routes of toxin excretion in the body. Magnesium citrate is a helpful rapid relief tool. We have a Constipation Relief program he can follow as well.

              Unless there is suspicion of histamine intolerance, consuming a variety of fermented foods is preferred over probiotic supplements. They offer more variety and quantity of beneficial strains of microbes than a probiotic can offer. We have several recipes under the “Beverages & Fermented Foods” category if you want to try making some at home.

              Instead of turmeric supplements, I always prefer curcumin – the beneficial compound found in turmeric. Large doses of turmeric over time can potentially contribute to kidney stone formation but only in certain individuals and at high doses due to its high oxalate content. This study showed 2 grams/day of turmeric powder (about 1 tsp) significantly increased urinary oxalate excretion.

              What type of smoothies do you make him? Keep in mind that spinach is also high in oxalates when eaten raw.

              What is the reason you’re giving him berberine? Blood sugar? If that’s the case, keep in mind that it’s also antimicrobial and can affect the gut microbiome if on it long term. Berberine should only be used short term.

              If he’s supplementing with Vitamin D3 regularly (what’s the dose?), it’s best to get tested after a few months to check levels and adjust dose or stop if needed. The aim is to be between 50-70ng/ml.

              Omega-3 is a good choice, especially in cases with higher inflammation in the body.

              Can you explain the reasoning for the other supplements? It’s not that there’s anything bad about them, but supplements should always be taken with a specific purpose and goal in mind. Once that’s achieved, the supplement should be stopped.

      • iryna_klevetenko

        Member
        July 4, 2025 at 12:50 pm

        We didn’t measure his vitamins unfortunately

  • iryna_klevetenko

    Member
    July 5, 2025 at 3:28 pm

    Hello @Bernadette_Abraham thank you. What type of smoothies do you make him? Banana, celery,broccoli,spinach and kelp, blueberries,broccoli sprouts, kiwi.

    What is the reason you’re giving him berberine? Blood sugar? I just thought it can be a good idea for a short time to just as a prophylactic. Will stop it too. He doesn’t have any problem with sugar.

    If he’s supplementing with Vitamin D3 regularly (what’s the dose?) I gave him 2000, will test his vd next week. We live in the city where now is raining and no sun so that’s why I give him V D. But need to check it.

    Can you explain the reasoning for the other supplements? The joint supplements helped him with the pain in his hand even though we tested on autoimmune and arthritis and he is negative. Will stop supplements he doesn’t need because I may overload his liver because of that.

    • Bernadette_Abraham

      Administrator
      July 5, 2025 at 4:56 pm

      @iryna_klevetenko yes, good idea to lessen the supplement protocol to only what he actually needs because yes, they all need to be processed by the liver as well.

      Also, if you’re giving him daily green smoothies, be sure to switch up the greens. Spinach is very high in oxalates when consumed raw. Best to consume spinach cooked or less frequently raw.

      As for kelp – what’s the dose? If you’re giving it to him daily, it’s best to reduce the frequency. It’s very rich in iodine and iodine excess can disrupt thyroid function, especially in those with autoimmunity. Also with any product that’s used frequently, check to see if the company has done any heavy metal testing.

      • iryna_klevetenko

        Member
        July 24, 2025 at 7:20 am

        Hello @Bernadette_Abraham , so I was able to find Integrative therapeutics detoxification factors, can you please recommend how long should he take it and how many pills? Also we did some extra tests and his ferritin went even higher. Our cardiologist suggested to take statins …Also I bought Gastro mend-hp to help with upper gastrointestinal health.

        • Daniel

          Member
          July 25, 2025 at 2:31 am

          Hey @iryna_klevetenko ,

          Thank you for sharing his labs; this does shift the approach a bit.

          When serum iron is normal but ferritin (the storage form of iron) is elevated, it often points to an underlying inflammatory process. This could be due to chronic infections (bacteria or viruses), but fatty liver is also a common cause that shouldn’t be overlooked.

          His vitamin D level is 36.9 ng/ml, which is technically not deficient, but also not yet optimal. I’d recommend getting it into the 50–60 ng/ml range before introducing stronger detoxification supplements… And here’s why:

          When you begin supporting detox pathways, the body may start to mobilise stored toxins, which can trigger temporary inflammation or immune reactions. Vitamin D is important here: it doesn’t just support immunity, it also plays a key role in calming inflammation and improving detox tolerance.

          Since he’s already using 2000 IU/day of vitamin D, I’d suggest increasing to 4000 IU/day, ideally with vitamin K2 added for balance. Do this for the next 4–8 weeks, then reassess.

          Once his vitamin D is in the target range, revisit the video Bernadette recommended (this one here), and if he’s not constipated, not dealing with an active infection, and generally feeling stable, then it could be a good time to gently introduce the supplement Detoxification Factors by Integrative Therapeutics.

          Start with 1 capsule per day (or even every other day), and gradually work up to 2 capsules per day, depending on tolerance.

          If any detox symptoms arise (fatigue, headaches, irritability, skin flares) simply dial back the dose. That usually means detox is going faster than his body can eliminate waste.

          Once he’s tolerating 2 capsules per day for about 10 days, feel free to check in with us again, and we’ll be happy to guide you on the next steps.

          • iryna_klevetenko

            Member
            July 25, 2025 at 7:48 am

            Hi Daniel thank you for the clarification, unfortunately I already started with the detox before we checked his Vd. He doesn’t have any bad reactions to it.

  • iryna_klevetenko

    Member
    July 6, 2025 at 1:34 pm

    Dear @Bernadette_Abraham thank you so much. Was using kelp for green juice almost every day but don’t anymore past 2 weeks we buy organic I hope it is good quality.

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